Public Access OpenVMS Hobby Cluster Starlet No. 77 (info)

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Hi there,

Visit my Hobby OpenVMS Cluster Starlet No. 77. The machines are:

Nodename (FQDN) Machine Operating System
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA.MARWAY.ORG COMPAQ DS10 OpenVMS Alpha V8.3
AlphaServer
256M Ram
2x 4.3G Disks
IVANA.MARWAY.ORG DEC PWS 433au OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1
Personal WorkStation
384M Ram
2x 2G Disks
HORSE.MARWAY.ORG DEC MicroVAX 3100 M80 OpenVMS VAX V7.3
24M Ram
1x 1G Disk
1x 4.2G UserDisk
BIRD.MARWAY.ORG SIMH-VAX OpenVMS VAX V7.3
VAXserver 3900 Series
512M Ram
2x 2G Disks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Username: NEWUSER
Password: NEWUSER

And create your own free hobbyist account!

On DCL prompt, type HELP for help and NOTES for us-ascii text conferencing

For german users:
ftp://sharon.marway.org/pub/vax/vms_einfuehrung.pdf

Hav' fun, and a nice staying on my machines,
-Vaxima

[MG]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
Nodename (FQDN) Machine Operating System
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA.MARWAY.ORG COMPAQ DS10 OpenVMS Alpha V8.3
AlphaServer
256M Ram
2x 4.3G Disks
IVANA.MARWAY.ORG DEC PWS 433au OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1
Personal WorkStation
384M Ram
2x 2G Disks
HORSE.MARWAY.ORG DEC MicroVAX 3100 M80 OpenVMS VAX V7.3
24M Ram
1x 1G Disk
1x 4.2G UserDisk
BIRD.MARWAY.ORG SIMH-VAX OpenVMS VAX V7.3
VAXserver 3900 Series
512M Ram
2x 2G Disks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Username: NEWUSER
Password: NEWUSER
And create your own free hobbyist account!
[...]
Hav' fun, and a nice staying on my machines,
-Vaxima >

Excellent initiative, I really like what I'm reading. Especially since
it's located nearby, in a neighboring country!

However, I can only log onto IVANA:: and HORSE:: (via telnet) and when
I log onto either as "NEWUSER" the procedure seems to fail:
_______________________________________________________________________________


Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3

This VMScluster boot node HORSE is located in Sindelfingen, Germany
You reached the Starlet No. 77 Cluster

IMPORTANT NOTICE: The provided OpenVMS Nodes are for hobbyist/private
use only! If you're not interested, disconnect now!

It's an Original DEC MicroVAX 3100 Model 80, connected with a SHDSL
Leased Line to the Mannesmann ARCOR Backbone Network

You're interested in an really free OpenVMS Account for hobbyists?
Enter Username: NEWUSER and Password: NEWUSER here!

Username: NEWUSER
Password:

Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3

1.) HORSE is a DIGITAL MicroVAX 3100 Model 80, with a DEC Mariah CPU,
24M Main Memory, a 1.08G Boot/System Disk and a 4.3G SCSI Disk

2.) IVANA is a DIGITAL Personal WorkStation 433au with a 433 MHz EV56 CPU
(DECchip 21164A), 384M Main Memory and two DEC RZ1BB Disks

3.) STELLA is a COMPAQ AlphaServer DS10 with a 466 MHz EV6 CPU
(DECchip (21264), Pass 2.3, 256M Main Memory and two SEAGATE 4.3GB
Disks

Additionally installed software on HORSE:

- UCX TCP/IP V5.1 (telnetd patched)
- Compaq CC V6.4
- Compaq Fortran 77 V6.6-201
- Compaq Pascal Compiler V5.8
- VAX BASIC V3.9 Interpreter and Compaq BASIC Compiler V3.9
- VAX Cobol V5.3

Hav' fun on Starlet No. 77 Cluster (HORSE, IVANA and STELLA),
Hostmaster

%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private terminal
table
NEWUSER logged out at 20-SEP-2011 21:14:38.00
_______________________________________________________________________________

Are BIRD:: and STELLA:: down, perhaps? They seem to 'hang up' when I
try to establish a connection.

- MG

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Post by MG

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
Nodename (FQDN) Machine Operating System
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA.MARWAY.ORG COMPAQ DS10 OpenVMS Alpha V8.3
AlphaServer
256M Ram
2x 4.3G Disks
IVANA.MARWAY.ORG DEC PWS 433au OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1
Personal WorkStation
384M Ram
2x 2G Disks
HORSE.MARWAY.ORG DEC MicroVAX 3100 M80 OpenVMS VAX V7.3
24M Ram
1x 1G Disk
1x 4.2G UserDisk
BIRD.MARWAY.ORG SIMH-VAX OpenVMS VAX V7.3
VAXserver 3900 Series
512M Ram
2x 2G Disks
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Username: NEWUSER
Password: NEWUSER
And create your own free hobbyist account!
[...]
Hav' fun, and a nice staying on my machines,
-Vaxima >

Excellent initiative, I really like what I'm reading. Especially since
it's located nearby, in a neighboring country!
However, I can only log onto IVANA:: and HORSE:: (via telnet) and when
_______________________________________________________________________________
Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3
This VMScluster boot node HORSE is located in Sindelfingen, Germany
You reached the Starlet No. 77 Cluster
IMPORTANT NOTICE: The provided OpenVMS Nodes are for hobbyist/private
use only! If you're not interested, disconnect now!
It's an Original DEC MicroVAX 3100 Model 80, connected with a SHDSL
Leased Line to the Mannesmann ARCOR Backbone Network
You're interested in an really free OpenVMS Account for hobbyists?
Enter Username: NEWUSER and Password: NEWUSER here!
Username: NEWUSER
Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3
1.) HORSE is a DIGITAL MicroVAX 3100 Model 80, with a DEC Mariah CPU,
24M Main Memory, a 1.08G Boot/System Disk and a 4.3G SCSI Disk
2.) IVANA is a DIGITAL Personal WorkStation 433au with a 433 MHz EV56 CPU
(DECchip 21164A), 384M Main Memory and two DEC RZ1BB Disks
3.) STELLA is a COMPAQ AlphaServer DS10 with a 466 MHz EV6 CPU
(DECchip (21264), Pass 2.3, 256M Main Memory and two SEAGATE 4.3GB
Disks
- UCX TCP/IP V5.1 (telnetd patched)
- Compaq CC V6.4
- Compaq Fortran 77 V6.6-201
- Compaq Pascal Compiler V5.8
- VAX BASIC V3.9 Interpreter and Compaq BASIC Compiler V3.9
- VAX Cobol V5.3
Hav' fun on Starlet No. 77 Cluster (HORSE, IVANA and STELLA),
Hostmaster
%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private terminal
table
NEWUSER logged out at 20-SEP-2011 21:14:38.00
_______________________________________________________________________________
Are BIRD:: and STELLA:: down, perhaps? They seem to 'hang up' when I
try to establish a connection.

You must set "vt100" explicite, in your terminal settings, then it should
work. Xterm etc. don't work, and it is a bug, not a feature. :-)

C YA,
-Vaxima

[MG]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
You must set "vt100" explicite, in your terminal settings, then it should
work. Xterm etc. don't work, and it is a bug, not a feature. :-)

VT100 emulation is what I always use. Maybe you could include a
terminal inquiry ("$ SET TERMINAL /INQUIRE") routine or simply force
the NEWUSER procedure to have it set to VT100 ("$ SET TERMINAL /VT100")
in the LOGIN.COM or so? Because, I think, despite having specifically
configured PuTTY to do 'VT100+' emulation (I'll try from a DECterm
soon) to do VT100 emulation, it somehow doesn't detect it correctly.

- MG

[Hans Bachner]

<schnipp>

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by MG
%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private
terminal table
NEWUSER logged out at 20-SEP-2011 21:14:38.00

You must set "vt100" explicite, in your terminal settings, then it
should work. Xterm etc. don't work, and it is a bug, not a feature.
:-)

Neither PuTTY identifying itself as a "vt220", nor classic DEC Terminal
emulators (like VTstar from the freeware CD) work - they all give the
error message reported by MG.

When I connect to one of my VMS nodes (an AlphaServer 1200) with VTstar,
I have these settings:

KERNEL> sho term
Terminal: _VTA38: Device_Type: VT300_Series Owner: Garfield
Physical terminal: _TNA39: Username: HANS
Remote Port Info: Host: 10.0.0.67 Port: 1707

Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 132 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 40

yes, it's a *large* VT300 :-)

I can SET HOST, telnet or SSH to any other VMS node in my lab (VAX,
Alpha, IA64) without problems, but

KERNEL> telnet horse.marway.org
%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 145.253.97.114
%TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host horse.marway.org, port 23
-TELNET-I-ESCAPE, Escape character is ^]

Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3
[...]
Hav' fun on Starlet No. 77 Cluster (HORSE, IVANA and STELLA),
Hostmaster

%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private terminal
table
NEWUSER logged out at 22-SEP-2011 01:21:35.30
%TELNET-S-REMCLOSED, Remote connection closed
-TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host horse.marway.org, port 23
KERNEL>

What program do you invoke during login that does not recognize standard
terminal types?

Hans.

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Post by Hans Bachner
<schnipp>

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by MG
%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private
terminal table
NEWUSER logged out at 20-SEP-2011 21:14:38.00

You must set "vt100" explicite, in your terminal settings, then it
should work. Xterm etc. don't work, and it is a bug, not a feature.
:-)

Neither PuTTY identifying itself as a "vt220", nor classic DEC Terminal
emulators (like VTstar from the freeware CD) work - they all give the
error message reported by MG.
When I connect to one of my VMS nodes (an AlphaServer 1200) with VTstar,
KERNEL> sho term
Terminal: _VTA38: Device_Type: VT300_Series Owner: Garfield
Physical terminal: _TNA39: Username: HANS
Remote Port Info: Host: 10.0.0.67 Port: 1707
Input: 9600 LFfill: 0 Width: 132 Parity: None
Output: 9600 CRfill: 0 Page: 40
yes, it's a *large* VT300 :-)
I can SET HOST, telnet or SSH to any other VMS node in my lab (VAX,
Alpha, IA64) without problems, but
KERNEL> telnet horse.marway.org
%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 145.253.97.114
%TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host horse.marway.org, port 23
-TELNET-I-ESCAPE, Escape character is ^]
Welcome to OpenVMS VAX Operating System V7.3
[...]
Hav' fun on Starlet No. 77 Cluster (HORSE, IVANA and STELLA),
Hostmaster
%SMG-F-UNDTERNOP, undefined terminal - couldn't access private terminal
table
NEWUSER logged out at 22-SEP-2011 01:21:35.30
%TELNET-S-REMCLOSED, Remote connection closed
-TELNET-I-SESSION, Session 01, host horse.marway.org, port 23
KERNEL>
What program do you invoke during login that does not recognize standard
terminal types?

I invoke a program called "newuser" from HoffmanLabs.COM. It's a bug,
but I've the source code. Someone can patch/help me? :-)

C YA,
-Vaxima

[Paul Sture]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
I invoke a program called "newuser" from HoffmanLabs.COM. It's a bug,
but I've the source code. Someone can patch/help me? :-)

Hoff has written about this on his web site:

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1260#comment-2590

Are you using the latest version of NEWUSER?

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Post by Paul Sture

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
I invoke a program called "newuser" from HoffmanLabs.COM. It's a bug,
but I've the source code. Someone can patch/help me? :-)

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1260#comment-2590
Are you using the latest version of NEWUSER?

I'm using the latest NEWUSER stuff for VAX and Alpha, even NEWUSER V1.0-2.
The current version is for I64 and Alphas only. What should I do?
Should i cluster SYSUAF etc. in my cluster? :-)

C YA,
-Vaxima

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by Paul Sture

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
I invoke a program called "newuser" from HoffmanLabs.COM. It's a bug,
but I've the source code. Someone can patch/help me? :-)

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1260#comment-2590
Are you using the latest version of NEWUSER?

I'm using the latest NEWUSER stuff for VAX and Alpha, even NEWUSER V1.0-2.
The current version is for I64 and Alphas only. What should I do?

$ help /mess UNDTERNOP

$ dir sys$system:termtable
$ dir sys$system:smgterms

Resolve any troubles.

I get :

$ d sys$system:termtable

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

TERMTABLE.EXE;1 170 29-JUN-2006 18:21:34.05
TERMTABLE.TXT;1 1 7-MAR-1984 19:45:31.97

Total of 2 files, 171 blocks.
$ d sys$system:smgterms

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

SMGTERMS.TXT;1 170 8-MAR-1995 13:53:10.00

Total of 1 file, 170 blocks.
$

[Hans Bachner]

<snip>

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by Paul Sture
http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1260#comment-2590
Are you using the latest version of NEWUSER?

I'm using the latest NEWUSER stuff for VAX and Alpha, even NEWUSER
V1.0-2. The current version is for I64 and Alphas only. What should I
do?

Looking at Hoff's website, you should upgrade to the latest version of
NEWUSER (V2.1-0) and require folks to register for a new account, reset
passwords etc. on one of the Alphas.

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
Should i cluster SYSUAF etc. in my cluster? :-)

I do hope you have a common SYSUAF across the cluster, so once the
account is created it can be used on the VAXen as well.

Hans.

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Hi,

I'm setting up my HobbyCluster again! The Cluster has four Nodes now:

STELLA, IVANA, HORSE and BARNEY. The NEWUSER-System from Stephen Hoffman
(HoffmanLabs LLC) is disabled now, and the potential and really interested
Users must or should contact me directly via e-Mail first. Please include
a wished Username (max. 6-7 lower-case characters... and on which host you
want to stay :-)

-------------------
My daily e-Mail is:
***@melanie.marway.org
As Subject you should use "Free Account"...
-------------------------------------------

Some benchmarks of my machines in the cluster:

--------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA: VUPs = 273 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.07 (DS10) [64 Bit]
IVANA: VUPs = 176 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.66 (PWS433AU) [64 Bit]
HORSE: VUPs = 13 Elapsed time = 00:00:20.98 (MV3100-M80) [32 Bit]
BARNEY: VUPs = 5 Elapsed time = 00:00:54.97 (VS3100-M38) [32 Bit]
--------------------------------------------------------------------

All four Node hav' [EXPECTED_VOTES=1], IVANA has [VOTES=1] and the rest
[VOTES=0] in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT

That's correct so? :-)

FYI,
SYSUAF.DAT, RIGHTSLIST.DAT etc. are not clustered yet! A Quorum Disk
is planned... Any suggestions?

Hope to hear soon from you,
Ingmar S, Horn
OpenVMS HobbyAdmin (marway.org)
Silverstone Networking Horn & Horn GbR

[Phillip Helbig---undress to reply]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
STELLA, IVANA, HORSE and BARNEY. The NEWUSER-System from Stephen Hoffman
(HoffmanLabs LLC) is disabled now, and the potential and really interested
Users must or should contact me directly via e-Mail first. Please include
a wished Username (max. 6-7 lower-case characters... and on which host you
want to stay :-)

Why 6--7? Why lower case? What's the point of the last phrase?

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
--------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA: VUPs = 273 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.07 (DS10) [64 Bit]
IVANA: VUPs = 176 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.66 (PWS433AU) [64 Bit]
HORSE: VUPs = 13 Elapsed time = 00:00:20.98 (MV3100-M80) [32 Bit]
BARNEY: VUPs = 5 Elapsed time = 00:00:54.97 (VS3100-M38) [32 Bit]
--------------------------------------------------------------------

While perhaps interesting for testing things, learning etc, the power of
the VAXen is negligible. Also, it might be difficult to find quotas
appropriate for both architectures.

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
All four Node hav' [EXPECTED_VOTES=1], IVANA has [VOTES=1] and the rest
[VOTES=0] in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT
That's correct so? :-)

That means that if IVANA goes down, the cluster hangs.

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
FYI,
SYSUAF.DAT, RIGHTSLIST.DAT etc. are not clustered yet! A Quorum Disk
is planned... Any suggestions?

I presume you mean that you don't have common files yet. A quorum disk
is needed only in a two-node cluster.

[Ingmar S. Horn]

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
STELLA, IVANA, HORSE and BARNEY. The NEWUSER-System from Stephen Hoffman
(HoffmanLabs LLC) is disabled now, and the potential and really interested
Users must or should contact me directly via e-Mail first. Please include
a wished Username (max. 6-7 lower-case characters... and on which host you
want to stay :-)

Why 6--7? Why lower case? What's the point of the last phrase?

Oh, OK, 6-8 chars. Correct? :-)

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
--------------------------------------------------------------------
STELLA: VUPs = 273 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.07 (DS10) [64 Bit]
IVANA: VUPs = 176 Elapsed time = 00:00:01.66 (PWS433AU) [64 Bit]
HORSE: VUPs = 13 Elapsed time = 00:00:20.98 (MV3100-M80) [32 Bit]
BARNEY: VUPs = 5 Elapsed time = 00:00:54.97 (VS3100-M38) [32 Bit]
--------------------------------------------------------------------

While perhaps interesting for testing things, learning etc, the power of
the VAXen is negligible. Also, it might be difficult to find quotas
appropriate for both architectures.

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
All four Node hav' [EXPECTED_VOTES=1], IVANA has [VOTES=1] and the rest
[VOTES=0] in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT
That's correct so? :-)

That means that if IVANA goes down, the cluster hangs.

What is when the DS10 (Nodename: STELLA) has VOTES=1? :-)

C YA,
-Vaxima

[Rob Brown]

In de.alt.folklore.computer Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

Please include a wished Username (max. 6-7 lower-case
characters...

Why 6--7? Why lower case? What's the point of the last phrase?

Oh, OK, 6-8 chars. Correct? :-)

On VMS 7.1:

$ mcr authorize help add parameter

ADD

Parameter

newusername

Specifies the name of the user record to be included in the
SYSUAF. The newusername parameter is a string of 1 to 12
alphanumeric characters and can contain underscores. Although
dollar signs are permitted, they are usually reserved for system
names.

Avoid using fully numeric user names (for example, 89560312). A
fully numeric user name cannot receive a corresponding identifier
because fully numeric identifiers are not permitted.

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

All four Node hav' [EXPECTED_VOTES=1], IVANA has [VOTES=1] and the rest
[VOTES=0] in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT
That's correct so? :-)

That means that if IVANA goes down, the cluster hangs.

What is when the DS10 (Nodename: STELLA) has VOTES=1? :-)

If both IVANA and STELLA have VOTES=1, then the cluster will hang if
either node goes down. If both have VOTES=1 *and* you have a quorum
disk, the cluster will stay up if either one (but not both) of these
nodes goes down (as long as the quorum disk remains up).

If all four nodes have VOTES=1 then the cluster will remain active if
any single node goes down, but will hang if more than one node goes
down.

In any case, the nodes with VOTES=0 can enter and leave the cluster
with impunity.

How is your storage connected? Since I only have storage connected to
individual systems, I put all my important cluster files --- SYSUAF,
RIGHTSLIST, etc. --- on only one node, gave that node one vote and the
other nodes 0. If that important node is up, the cluster can run.

Have fun!

[Phillip Helbig---undress to reply]

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
Why 6--7? Why lower case? What's the point of the last phrase?

Oh, OK, 6-8 chars. Correct? :-)

12.

Post by Ingmar S. Horn

Post by Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

Post by Ingmar S. Horn
All four Node hav' [EXPECTED_VOTES=1], IVANA has [VOTES=1] and the rest
[VOTES=0] in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT
That's correct so? :-)

That means that if IVANA goes down, the cluster hangs.

What is when the DS10 (Nodename: STELLA) has VOTES=1? :-)

Then BOTH have to be in the cluster, otherwise it hangs.

The smallest "useful" cluster is with three voting nodes.

[Rob Brown]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 at 22:07 -0000, Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

A Quorum Disk is planned...

A quorum disk is needed only in a two-node cluster.

A cluster in which exactly two nodes vote, to be precise, I think.

[John Reagan]

Post by Rob Brown
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 at 22:07 -0000, Phillip Helbig---undress to reply

A Quorum Disk is planned...

A quorum disk is needed only in a two-node cluster.

A cluster in which exactly two nodes vote, to be precise, I think.

Actually, a two-node cluster with shared storage.

I've seen several NI-based clusters with horrible votes/expected-votes
values. Doesn't matter if you don't have shared storage, right?

John